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ticka1
12-16-2004, 09:06 PM
00Z GFS and EURO runs are very impressive this morning with respect to the cold air outbreak next week.

To get you interested the forecasted high for KIAH is now 17 on the 26th with .2 inches of liquid snow roughly 2.0 "snow" inches. Zero to sub zero temps. are forecasted into central TX around Austin with Dallas 2-5 degrees below zero. Should these temps. verify all time record lows would be set.

Pattern setup:

Rex block will be developing over the E PAC over the next 2-3 days with high pressure building deep into Alaska and the Arctic. Downstream troughing over the lower 48 will gradually amplify with the first shot of arctic air on Saturday evening which is still forecast to give the state a glancing blow. After Monday the ridge to the west builds into northern Russia with very cold Siberian air being unlocked and forced over the north pole into NW Canada. The strong polar vortex near Hudson Bay retrogrades WSW to N Minnesota grabbing the building arctic air and dropping it to the US border by the 24th. Surface low pressure will then form in the TX panhandle and deepen rapidly while dropping through the mean trough and carving the trough back to the west of the state. This is the final piece to the puzzle and the arctic air is unleashed southward first entering MT late on the 24th and arriving in TX on the 25th. The GFS has 850mb temps of -36 C into central KS by late on the 25th and -14 C into N TX by early on the 26th. Cold air advection will be impressive with gradient winds of 40-50mph behind the arctic boundary late on the 25th and the 26th.

As for the precip. an upper level short wave will drop through the mean trough over the W US late on the 25th and be located over AZ on the morning of the 26th. Precip (all frozen) is forecasted to break out over SW and W TX late on the 26th and spread across the state late ont he 26th and the 27th. Forecast amounts of 12-15 inches by the GFS over central TX appear to be extremely high.

I am not terribly confident in the snowfall probabilities, but the cold air outbreak looks more than possible given the upper air setup. As always this is a medium range forecast and is subject to large changes, however most global runs have been consistent with this forecast over the last week.
JL

Bozo
12-17-2004, 11:28 AM
New GFS and EURO runs have sped up the arctic outbreak by a day now and have the strong cold front into N TX by Tuesday night and off the upper TX coast by early Wednesday. GFS guidance is running 10-15 degrees too warm based on data from northern Russia and Siberia or the origin area of this air mass.

Confidence is growing (to a degree) that precip. will fall behind the arctic front Christmas Eve through Christmas Day. Forecast soundings are frozen from the surface upward and would support frozen precip. 850mb 0C isotherm is well into the Gulf of Mexico and given this highs near freezing or just above are possible Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. The 540m thickness line (rain/snow line) is along to just off the TX coast or extending from Brownsville to 20 miles E of Galveston. KCRP has brough a 30% chance of sleet/snow into the forecast late on Christmas Eve for areas SW of a line from Victoria to Del Rio. GFS guidance is showing a 43% chance of precip. Christmas Eve night into Christmas Day with temps in the mid to upper 20's.

One caution note: the cold air must stay cold enough throughout the entire column to get frozen precip. Any warm advection process that warms any layer could change the light precip. from frozen to freezing (ie freezing rain and ice). QPF amounts are generally light with .1-.2 liquid inches which would roughly equal 1-2 inches of "frozen precip."

As always details remain hard to nail down at the extended range and moisture maybe too limited to produce anything more than a flurry or two.


The following is the 180hr (Christmas Eve Day) GFS run showing the 540m height line off the TX coast and decent moisture spreading into the area on the NW side of a surface low forming in the Gulf. A 1032mb arctic high is firmly entrenched near Lubbock with strong NNE winds over the area and frozen precip. If this run were to verify the area would see 4-8 inches of frozen precip with the area from New Orleans to Mobile seeing upwards of a foot.

Something to watch closely over the next 2-4 days.



Jeff Lindner

MeatWad
12-17-2004, 11:50 AM
:eek: That Resembles of How the "March Superstorm of 1993" formed.

ticka1
12-18-2004, 12:00 PM
Well just check the local forecast and looks like the snow chance is fading faster then a twenty dollar bill.

I knew that the GFS would change - it always does - no matter the weather...oh well it was fun while the excitment lasted.

:-(

BaytownWeatherWatcher
12-18-2004, 12:25 PM
Don't give up so quickly! The models have gone back and forth over the past week!

BaytownWeatherWatcher
12-18-2004, 02:33 PM
I just checked the latest accumulated snowcover map from the gfs on proaccuweather, and they have the snow almost to our area on Christmas Eve. Thought you would like to know!

ticka1
12-18-2004, 04:03 PM
BWW - wish you could post the link here on that. But its the pro-accuweather and you have to pay for the access - I would love to see it.

Bozo
12-18-2004, 04:33 PM
On another site, another model (not the Generally Full of Sh!t) shows us with 1/4" of snow. Yes snow. There I said it.

S N O W

ticka1
12-18-2004, 09:05 PM
SNOW

There I said it too.

BaytownWeatherWatcher
12-19-2004, 10:24 PM
Channels 13 and 12 (still channel 2 to me!) meteorologists both said there is a chance of snow flurries Christmas Eve. Seems there is some low in the gulf that will move this way, but the timing is in question. KEEP THINKING SNOW!!!